Out of Permit

Bill McCarthy · Post by **Bill McCarthy** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:03 pm

I have had my Sluka down for extensive 300hr maintenance since March this year and hope to have it back in action in the spring. Are there any permit "legalities" to be wary of if things slip beyond a full year out of service.

rans6andrew · Post by **rans6andrew** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:07 pm

I have been advised that, should your permit be lapsed for 12 months, you will need to do the full flight test, like for a new build aircraft. I didn't wait to find out if the permit fee due then would be the usual £140 annual renewal one or the £400 plus touch for a new build aircraft. (microlight scale of fees).

My Rans permit ran out at the beginning of February. When I saw that the weather was going to be good for the time of the year, on Saturday last, I rang my inspector. I managed to finish some maintenance, do the compulsory item inspections, have the annual permit inspection and do the permit flight test, all before it got dark or I got too cold.

Paperwork went in the post this morning, hurrah.

Rans6.....

Bill McCarthy · Post by **Bill McCarthy** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:16 pm

Thanks Andrew, I'll get a move on then !

Rich Valler · Post by **Rich Valler** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:03 pm

My understanding differs .... but I stand to be corrected. (edited to add: especially as my research related to Aeroncas, and I've just realised the Sluka is a (factory-built?) microlight and as such may have different rules that apply

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Taken from TL2.06:

Permit current: Inspector issues Permit Maintenance Release (PMR), followed by the permit annual renewal flight test

Permit expired <12 months: Inspector issues PMR and also Permit Flight Release Certificate (PFRC), followed by the standard permit annual renewal flight test

Permit expired >12 months: only the LAA Engineering department can issue the PFRC, having received appropriate worksheets etc. from inspector; followed by the standard annual renewal flight test

So the only difference between <12 months and >12 months expired is who issues the PFRC, or so it seems to me.

The only reference I can find to a full flight test being required (other than for new build or inital issue) is in TL2.21 Rebuilding an Aircraft Under the LAA System (page 7 of 7), when there are a lot more hoops to jump through, as you would expect.

However, where the line is drawn between "extensive maintenance" and "Rebuilding an Aircraft" is probably something for your inspector and LAA Engineering to discuss and agree ...

Rich

Brian Hope · Post by **Brian Hope** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:04 am

Bill, you will not have any additional fees to pay or tests to carry out. The only change from normal renewal is that you and your inspector will apply for the Permit to Test from the office rather than him giving the form to you. No need to rush to get under the 12 month barrier. Good luck with the overhaul and flight testing. Hope to see you at the Rally next year in the Sluka.

Bill McCarthy · Post by **Bill McCarthy** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:50 pm

Thanks Brian. I would dearly love to fly in to Sywell and the lads who flew down from Inverness certainly gave me the encouragement to do it. Mind you, I'd have to get a days head start on them. There are not many Slukas about these days so it may stir a bit of interest.