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UK Orphans LTO issued

Post by steveneale » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:06 am

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid ... ageid=9221

No sign of Jodel's yet.
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Post by Dave Holl » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:16 am

This could possibly because the title of the article is Non EASA orphan aircraft of UK Design?
Now I know the Jodel is a great aircraft and should have been designed in the UK but our friends in France did it!! :D
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Post by steveneale » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:39 am

Guess what. I read it too, Hence the title of my posting!!

I was talking about the Jodel LTO. :roll:
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Post by Dave Holl » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:28 am

Just had a letter from Malcolm McBride at Turweston saying that the CAA want further meetings/discussion about when the Jodels will be able to transfer and that this "may" take another eight months?
I hope not as my Cof A is due in June. :(
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Post by steveneale » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:15 pm

French LTO now issued Dave, See other topic.
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Post by Mark A » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:14 pm

Does anyone know what the situation will be with clubs that operate orphaned types?

Other than the concession for single seaters like the Tiger Club's Turbulents, permit restrictions don't allow 'hire or reward' operations.

French clubs don't seem to have a problem hiring out CNRA types (their equivalent of a permit), so could the CAA be persuaded to allow at least some permit types onto club fleets.
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Post by timr » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:58 am

Dave Holl wrote:Just had a letter from Malcolm McBride at Turweston saying that the CAA want further meetings/discussion about when the Jodels will be able to transfer and that this "may" take another eight months?
I hope not as my Cof A is due in June. :(
NOT in relation to Jodel's but this is what I had from the CAA.
If the Authority of the State of Design withdraw the TC, or confirm that there is no Type Support, we would expect to issue a letter to owners allowing 3 months for interested individuals to make arrangements for a Type Responsibility Agreement (involving a link to approved DOA) for the continuation of the Certificate of Airworthiness. If anyone then wishes to pursue such an agreement, we would allow a further 9 months to make appropriate (ie approved by us) arrangements. On the other hand, if no interest is identified, we would then consider allowing the aircraft to continue to fly under a Permit to Fly.
Early last year I had a conversation with the CAA regarding an orphaned type. I was told any aircraft that were a National Responsibility (eg Non EASA type - on Annex II) they wanted GA types to be on LAA (PFA) administered permits and ex-military they would administer. I thought this was quite straight forward. However they now appear to have changed their minds.....
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UK Orphans LTO Issued

Post by Mike Fawdrey » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:45 pm

Not the first time CAA have faffed about, Austers, Mode S etc
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Jodel transfer to permit

Post by Dave Holl » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:45 pm

Any one know what is the current situation with transfering the jodel fleet onto LAA permit?
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Post by macconnacher » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:35 pm

The Jodels are go for transfer to LAA except the D150 which someone has stuck their hand up to set up a TRA. We have to see whether it is successful.
Type that are coming are :-
* Jodel D117
* Jodel D120
* Jodel D140
* Jodel DR100A
* Jodel DR1050
* Jodel DR1051
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Post by Mike Mold » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:01 pm

D112 ???
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Post by JohnMead » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:43 pm

macconnacher wrote:The Jodels are go for transfer to LAA except the D150 which someone has stuck their hand up to set up a TRA. We have to see whether it is successful.
Type that are coming are :-
* Jodel D117
* Jodel D120
* Jodel D140
* Jodel DR100A
* Jodel DR1050
* Jodel DR1051

Surely D117s & D120s are already permit aircraft along with 112s .

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Post by Barry Plumb » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:29 pm

John,

Stuart is completely correct. The CAA letter of January mentioned D117, and D120, as there are some examples of each of these types on CofA. Most are already on PtF but a few remain on CofA. At present there are no examples of the D112 on CofA, all UK examples being on PtF already.
Unfortunately there is an applicant for a TRA for the D150 Mascaret. This will mean that for the time being the three remaining CofA Mascarets will continue on CofA. There are of course approx 20 Mascarets already on PtF and these will continue as they are.

Hopefuly more news on the Jodel situation next week.

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