PA 22

[geoger]

Hi Chaps is the PA22 colt a permit aircraft or does it have to be CAA ?
george

[tnowak]

Unfortunately CAA only. Hopefully, one day, this may change.
Tony Nowak

[Ian Melville]

Is it not CAA Permit, rather than LAA Permit? Annex 2 listed IIRC, and shown as Non-EASA on G-INFO

[John Dean]

The PA22's are presently on a C of A but are Annex 2 not EASA.

Rumours abound that they are trying to obtain transfer to an LAA permit.

[Rob Swain]

Are they still 'supported by the factory' and have a type certificate?

That used to be the acid test, but seems to be ignored now: Gardan Horizons for example - nobody owns the type cert and in France, their country or origin, they are on a permit, but here they are CofA.

[Brian Hope]

Hi Rob, the first Horizon is currently being transferred onto PtF and others will follow if they wish to do so.
Rgds, Brian

[Deshartua]

The PA22 is a great little aircraft and I've spent many happy hours flying them, alas we had to get rid of ours due to the lack of local maintenance support for a 'rag and tube' type.

If PA22's ever make it onto a permit I'd have another one in a heartbeat, fantastically rugged aircraft with very forgiving handling and a lovely vintage charm. The Johnson bar brakes, rubber bungee interlinked rudder and aileron and amusingly large trim changes required for full flap makes for far more interesting flying than a C172!

Regards

Des

[Charles Scott]

It's impossible to keep a PA-22 North of the Border as there are now no full-time licensed engineers with it on their ticket. We had to fly ours South for it's last annual before we reluctantly sold it, and like Des I would have one in a heartbeat if I could get it on a permit.

If only there were actually some definite rules as to what could be kept on a permit. The current system gets a bit murky when you are dealing with aircraft from the early 1950's. Some PA-18s but not others, some Cessna 140s etc. Doesn't seem to be a problem in Ireland.