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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:14 pm
by Simon Ring
Paul,

How does this fabric compare to the likes of ceconite 101,103, dacron etc. Is there any special application process different from the norm with dope etc.

Reason for asking is I cannot access the link due to PC problems.

Simon

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:43 pm
by Dave Hall
There was a sub-115kg aircraft on the Escapade stand at SPLASH last weekend, covered with the fabric. It's about 1/2 the finished weight of Stits (no need to paint or dope etc), and twice the price for the fabric, so handy if you can't spray paint in your workshop. Said to be excellent at resisting UV light. It looked OK.

Obviously in the Kid Escapade the lightness takes priority, but I imagine against a professional paint job, it might work out no more expenseive than using the traditional stuff.

I suggest you ask the Escapade people at Old Sarum for info and their opinion on it.

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:37 am
by Brian Hope
Hi Paul. Francis has the samples you gave me at Splash and is enthusiastic about the product. Personally I thought the standard of finished fabric on both the Kid and the tail surfaces of the Sherwood Ranger was very good. It's a very traditional 'silk' finish, so may not suit those who want a wet gloss look. It will be interesting to see how the painted fabric looks, though from what you said at the show that too will be a silk look rather than a gloss.

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:44 am
by Ian Melville
Model aircraft builders should be at home with this. It sounds like Balsaloc and Solartex :D

Is the finish opaque and available in different colours like the model products?

Before anyone says this isn't just an upscaling of model products, I know :roll:

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:10 pm
by Bill McCarthy
I think a silk finish is good. It would "hide" minor imperfections which tend to stick out like a sore thumb on high gloss finishes.

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:12 pm
by Ian Law
Looks as though Oratex might suit my project and I'll bear it in mind when the time comes for covering.
The non-gloss finish would be more suitable, anyway, for my aircraft. The instructions don't have a lot to say about wood airframes and the method shown for covering (tailplane) flying surfaces shows a 630 degree wrap around for the leading edges, which would be rather awkward. Maybe this would not be needed for a wooden airframe?
It would be interesting to know roughly how the finished cost of using Oratex compares with using conventional materials/techniques.
The weight savings alone would be very attractive!

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:06 am
by Frank Parker
I am intrigued by the need to have a 630 degree wrap aroung the LE. How would one do this on a structure that has ribs?

Frank Parker

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:01 pm
by mikehallam
Shurely you don't mean 360 deg max ??