Tailwheel differences training

G-SQUO · Post by **G-SQUO** » Wed May 12, 2010 10:59 pm

Am I able to carry out my tailwheel differences training on an Acrosport 2 with an instructor current on type if I am a shareholder in the aircraft? As I understand, I am not able to get my own insurance until 10 hours on type has been completed so we would be flying on the instructors insurance as he flies the aircraft regularly anyway
Thanks
Paul

Mike Cross · Post by **Mike Cross** » Thu May 13, 2010 10:01 am

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ORS4_784.pdf

Dave Hall · Post by **Dave Hall** » Thu May 13, 2010 11:03 am

Handy, Mike. Thanks I read that on the CAA circulation list but lost it again.

It does make it clear that no pilot maintenance can have been carried out since the last inspection unless signed off - which presumably means if your group has done a 50-hour oil change etc, that must be signed off by the appropriate engineering authority too (ie your local engineer or inspector). That's a special circumstance if you want to pay for instruction, or have I got that wrong?

I'm getting paranoid about the loopholes insurance companies might look for at the moment.

barryc · Post by **barryc** » Thu May 13, 2010 1:20 pm

Hi All

You might like to use the LAA own instructors, via the Coaching scheme.

Jon Morris puts a lot of effort into the training and coaching section.

Click on Training/Coaching section and find a local instructor.

Alan Kilbride · Post by **Alan Kilbride** » Thu May 13, 2010 1:32 pm

Just to confuse you.

This is the reply sent to me by the Fcl at Gatrwick

Dear Mr Kilbride,

Your query is covered by AIC: W 071/2009 on the NATS Aeronautical Information Service website. A link to this is below.

http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/curre ... 071_en.pdf

Regards

Gareth Chaney-Brownbill
Licensing Officer
Licensing & Training Standards

This was sent to me less than a month ago.

Alan

David Hardaker · Post by **David Hardaker** » Thu May 13, 2010 4:57 pm

Paul
I'd be careful with insurance.
Your instructor pal may well be OK to fly your aircraft for his own purposes. But I'd make very sure your aircraft's own insurance covers the instructional situation. You're not going to be P1, so the 10 hours won't be a problem initially !

barryc · Post by **barryc** » Thu May 13, 2010 5:59 pm

Hi All

I have been reminded that Jon Cooke is the man who knows with the LAA PCS.
Worth mentioning insurance is an issue the LAA have taken on board, discuss this with Jon or the Coach for clarification.

Barry

G-SQUO · Post by **G-SQUO** » Sat May 15, 2010 10:41 pm

Cheers guys, they wont insure me for the full hull cover until I have 50 tail wheel hours so for several months im going to be flying with just third party insurance, a risk im not prepared to take

Cookie · Post by **Cookie** » Sun May 16, 2010 10:46 am

Paul,

Just spotted your post. The answer to your initial question is yes.

You may carry out remunerated differences training on a group owned aircraft with the Pilot Coaching Scheme.

Please contact me with your insurance details. It is unusual to include such a restriction unless the group are receiving a [small] discount.

BRgds,

Cookie