Trevor Harvey wrote:Paul.Paul Catanach wrote:Trevor Harvey wrote:.... reading threats of votes of no confidence...
Where?
Rather curious why you omitted the rest of that sentence, "or otherwise" ?
Ref: your post, top of page 15.
The words "vote of confidence" would imply that some might vote otherwise.
It looks like you are having a pop at me.
Please stop selective nit picking, I don't like it, I don't like it one bit!!
If you have something to say, go to PM and get it said!
Back on track.
"Give her the trophy back and move on"
I think that would be the worst thing we could do, like giving in to a spoilt child to stop them screaming.
Trevor, calm down. I’m not having a ‘pop’ at anyone. If I had something to say to you I would have said it. God knows there’s been enough deception over the last two years, I’m not adding to it. Mine was a genuine question as I was wondering whether I had missed someone calling for a vote of no confidence or whether, like a previous poster, you had misinterpreted my suggestion of a vote of confidence. If you also read my reply to Mike Hallam further down page 15 you’ll see I make it very clear where I stand when I wrote “(I wasn't suggest a vote of NO confidence, quite the opposite).”.
I’m not sure how I could have made it any clearer*.
For the avoidance of doubt my views are as follows:
The awards committee were as misled as everyone else. They acted in good faith and have absolutely nothing to apologise for.
A vote of NO confidence is a bad idea however transparency is needed. There are aspects of this whole affair that have me and others wondering how the member in question apparently came to know the content of confidential information (see Chris Martyr’s post regarding the 2016 motion). He and Bill McCarthy raised that question here but I do not see an answer yet.
I do not believe the award should be reinstated. It is blatantly obvious that the Africa flight was not as publicised and I do not believe the excuses for that. I have watched her stories change and read/heard the feeblest of explanations with regard to a number of things. Her descriptions of wanton rule breaking do not impress me, nor do stories of threatening minor officials with “an international incident” for chastising her. We all make mistakes in aviation but this intentional behaviour does not deserve a reward.
I had intended to stay off this thread until the AGM unless something new cropped up but as I’m here anyway I’m going to say this:
When Miss Curtis-Taylor joined this thread she apologised for us having to be here again and wrote of “our” LAA. The easy way to deal with the first part is to acknowledge that the Africa trip was not as described, in any of its iterations, show some moral courage and decline the award, go away and do some real outreach or community work and perhaps some genuinely worthy flights. Do that and hell, I’ll vote for you.
For the second part it strikes me that as a member of “our” Association Miss Curtis-Taylor has not once acknowledged the membership. Questions have been put directly to her here, and studiously ignored. Is any of this the behaviour of someone with the interests of “our” Association to heart?
* Trevor. ‘E’ communication is the worst kind, it’s so easy to misinterpret. If you wish to talk further I have PM’d you my phone number. Give me a call, we can have a chat. So much more civilised than this trolling or whatever it is we’re all allegedly doing.