Cessna 170 / 180 on PTF

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Alan Salerno
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Cessna 170 / 180 on PTF

Post by Alan Salerno » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:21 pm

Hi, I'm trying to search on this forum the list of Aircraft which can be placed under Permit to Fly Certificate.

Can anyone tell me if there is such a list ? and/or if I can place a Cessna 170 or 180 on such a permit.

In addition this would be initially an N registered aircraft , if all the FAA paper work is up to scratch , would a standard yearly check-up suffice to place/convert on the LAA Permit Cert ?

Thanks for your assitance.

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Post by Mike Mold » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:46 pm

See Engineering / Technical Leaflets / TL1.20 - neither types are listed.
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Post by gasax » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:37 am

The original type certificate holder is still in business so the permit option does not exist - otherwise C170s would be very popular in the UK!

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Post by Rob Swain » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:59 pm

gasax wrote:The original type certificate holder is still in business so the permit option does not exist - otherwise C170s would be very popular in the UK!
But there are C120s and C140s on a permit, and Piper Cubs. Last time I looked both Cessna and Piper were still in business.

Just pointing out that it partly depends on historical accident as well.

I wish we still had the old system in place so I could import another Luscombe and put it on a permit, like we used to be able to do! A permit Luscombe is one of the most beautiful ways to fly affordably.
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Post by Nigel Hitchman » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:41 pm

Yes, back in the "good old days" in the 80s the CAA allowed some two seat vintage aircraft onto permits, hence the large numbers of Luscombes, Cubs, Ce120/140, Taylorcrafts, Aeroncas Cubs, Vagabonds etc imported at the time. Sadly the CAA will no longer allow it.
I think no chance with a Ce 170 or 180 unfortunately.
I guess best leave it on the N reg if you can

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170/180 on Permit to fly

Post by David Lewendon » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:16 am

You will have to bear in mind that the CAA will not allow an engine more than twelve years old to be in an aircraft being transferred to the "G" reg.

If it is then it would have to be zero timed before being accepted on to the UK register.

The C180 is currently a C of A aircraft.

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Post by Ian Melville » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:41 pm

I thought the 12 years only applied to public cat aircraft

Friend of mines cessna twin has two engines @ 42 years old ish. Wanted to lease it out to make it pay for it's keep but the cost of two engines made it a no-go

Oh, and you cannot have an N reg on a LAA permit

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