Do we really need a "signals visible from the ground"

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Do we agree that Rule 60 (except part 5) should be deleted

Poll ended at Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:31 pm

Yes delete all except 5 - I can't remember what they mean anyway.
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No - keep them all and make students learn them for air law like I had to do.
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5%
 
Total votes: 20

John Brady
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Do we really need a "signals visible from the ground"

Post by John Brady » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:24 pm

The Rule 60 of the Rules of the Air presently requires an aerodrome to display signals visible from the ground. They comprise:

1. A black ball suspended from a mast
2. A red and yellow chequered flag or board
3. Two red balls one above the other suspended from a mast
4. Two black numerals on a black background
5. A black letter C against a yellow background
6. A rectangular green flag flying from a mast

Of course you know what these mean...........

The Standard European Rules of the Air proposes to do away with all except number 5. The CAA wants to know if you agree? Kindly tell us by completing the poll by the deadline of 23 October and we will tell them. Thanks,
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Re: Do we really need a "signals visible from the ground"

Post by mikehallam » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:35 pm

John,

Just to clarify. Does/did those requirements apply to "an airfield ?
Because any place used to land or take off is in Law an airfield.

As for all those bells & whistles, in that case I've broken every single one of them for a full 1/4 Century's operation at my strip ?

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Re: Do we really need a "signals visible from the ground"

Post by David Broom » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:41 pm

I have never seen the early implementation of a "stealth sign" specified in number 4 so obviously it has worked really well. :?

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Re: Do we really need a "signals visible from the ground"

Post by Ian Melville » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:16 am

Not sure about 4 either :D

Apart from 5 I don't think I have ever seen any of the others since I was a you lad in the ATC. These days the information they convey will have been obtained by other means, PPR(phone or F2F) and Radio etc

There are far too many 'symbols' and a cull could not be a bad idea. At least it would give pilots a fighting chance of remembering the meaning.
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