Medical self-declaration

[rszemeti]

Having dug deep in the CAA site, I found this useful table:

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP ... eTable.pdf

In short, you are right, LAPL privileges on EASA up to April 2018 ... of course, with "brexit" looming, who knows how that situation will change.

[ColinC]

Hi,

I haven't paid too much attention to these changes until now, but understand my options from the chart in that to fly our group owned C172 I need to maintain my LAPL medical after 2018, but I can fly non-easa after the cut off date on a declaration only. That's fine. I had thought that I'd need an NPPL to fly just non-easa on a declaration if I decide to drop the LAPL medical, but it seems I don't, that's logical.

I did wonder though how that affects people just wanting to train for an NPPL after the cut off date? Will it be possible to train for an NPPL in a typical flying school C152 or PA28?

Regards,

Colin

[Ian Melville]

I would assume they would need a LAPL medical as a minimum to go solo.

[Donald Walker]

Get an LAPL from my doctor and fly LAA homebuilts on a permit AND the club C152 ... but only within the UK

You can fly anywhere in the European Union with a LAPL. Article 11 of of Regulation (EC) 216/2008 reads:

Recognition of certificates
1. Member States shall, without further technical requirements or evaluation, recognise certificates issued in accordance with this Regulation. When the original recognition is for a particular purpose or purposes, any subsequent recognition shall cover only the same purpose or purposes.

[Ian Melville]

Not if you have an NPPL. Though your quoted bit came from a post that showed a poo brown UK PPL, who should be OK.

[Clive Richards]

It seems that following a warning from AOPA the CAA have found that you can not use a medical declaration to fly a EASA aircraft on a EASA licence in UK as proposed as in EU law a GP or AME signature is required see flyer forum.
Clive

[Rob Swain]

This will probably be regarded as scope-creep, but not too much, I think.

I am just wondering about the potential insurance implications of self cert medicals.
If I have a prang and am knocked out, suffer concussion etc. is my insurance underwriter likely to try to use that as proof I might have had fainting/dizziness as a prior medical condition and use that as an excuse not to pay out as I was flying outside the conditions of the self cert medical.
Another plausible circumstance would be after the prang you get admitted to to hospital for a day or two and you display high blood pressure, either because of the circumstance or due to 'white coat syndrome'. Again the underwriter might point to this as a pre-existing condition that invalidates the self-cert.
An AME or GP is probably going to be on your side if they have issued you a medical.
With self cert medicals you only have you on your side!

I have only listed a couple of potential scenarios above - there are probably many more.
In the event of a fatality there is great potential for a post-mortem finding they could use to wriggle out of liability! OK, you wouldn't care, but do you want to leave your family with the possibility of a 3rd party claim?

I think I'll continue to pay my AME his £100 a time and I'll consider it as part of my insurance as much as part of my license.

Sorry to be so gloomy, but we live in a litigous and slopey-shouldered world!