then my old UK Lifetime Licence will still be valid, n'est ce pas?
Oui et non. The original agreement was for NPPLs. It is something which we are dealing with, amongst other issues, and should be fairly simple as the national PPL is ICAO compliant whereas the NPPL is not.
No need to panic just yet as there is no change for UK national PPLs until April 2015.
Bill,
I've not flown a Sluka yet, so look forward to hearing all about it.
Well thankyou for all the useful information. I would welcome a confirmation of my new understanding of what to do to retain the ability to fly a CofA type at home and abroad, as the likelyhood o getting the Gardan Horizon on a Permit to fly seems to be an unachievable holy grail !
It seems that I should apply to CAA for a LAPL licence on the basis of my PPL(A) lifetime licence (brown cover) before my next biennial CofE signature is due.(as I am on a self declaration medical at present)
I should ask my AME to do a LAPL medical for me.
A supplementary question is what is the likely cost of the LAPL issue(is it £43) ?
The Gardan Horizon is on an EASA C of A, so will require an EASA licence post April 2015. You can either obtain a EASA PPL with Class 1 or 2 medical, or obtain a EASA LAPL with LAPL medical.
If you are intending on converting from a national PPL to a LAPL, then you need to comply with the requirements in CAP 804, Section 4, Part P, page 22 and submit your application - Form SRG 1104.
My understanding is that this will cost £41 (from ORS5 Personnel Licensing Scheme of Charges - there is no charge listed for PPL to LAPL, so I assume that it will be the same as NPPL to LAPL).
Note that the LAPL medical is not valid for use with your national PPL.
OR
You can obtain a EASA Class 2 medical, get your SEP rating in your UK licence revalidated as normal, and apply for your LAPL at a later date (but before April 2015).
Edit: The Scheme of Charges says CONVERSION of a National PPL to an (unspecified) EASA licence is £65.
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Well sorry to bounce this back up, but with my Class rating (CofE) due for renewal I though I had better get the ball rolling to get my UK Lifetime PPL(A) converted to a LAPL.
It seems I cannot do this.
First I have to convert my UK PPL(A) to a JAR licence for £ 65 then I may apply for a LAPL on the strength of a JAR licence for (wait for it) another £153.
So a £218 cost to basically carry on as I am, flying my plane.
Have I missed something. Others were talking about £41.
The CAA Scheme of Charges says conversion of a National PPL to EASA is £65 plus £6 P & P. I suggest you apply with this fee and see what happens.
If they are charging you to convert to JAR-FCL first, this is incorrect as the CAA no longer issue a JAR-FCL licence.....The conversion report in CAP 804 which was submitted and accepted by EASA says you may convert directly from UK PPL to LAPL providing you have complied with the various requirements.
Thanks Jon - that was Brian Hope's view too. So I plan to apply with £71 and see what happens. Just got to sort out the LAPL medical now.
I have a lingering doubt that they may want me to have my UK PPL(A) validated with a Class 2 medical before thay will convert, but i'll cross that bridge when come to it.
UK PPL (A) to LAPL couldnae be easier, run off form CAA SRG1104 submit either Class2 medical or new LAPL medical certificate pay the appropriate fee and bingo oh yes make sure you have the ability to prove you can speak English
