Robin aircraft.

MikeGodsell · Post by **MikeGodsell** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:48 pm

The latest press report on the CEPR [APEX] website suggests agreements are "on short final" for resumption of Robin spares delivery.

But does anyone have an update on the Type Certificate situation? Robins appear to be in limbo, with no renewal of C of A and/or Permit until a type certificate holder is found.

Barry Plumb · Post by **Barry Plumb** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:48 pm

Mike,

So far as we can tell the type certificate for the Robin series aircraft has not been revoked.

The commercial scenario in France relating to these aircraft has been very complicated as of late, but we are in continuous correspondence with our collegues in RSA to monitor the situation. Hopefully we will be able to report in a little more detail in the near future.

However I can confirm that the TC will probably remain valid for these types, which means that it is unlikely that they will be orphaned. This along with the fact that they are not Annex II means that there is little chance that these types will be eligable for transfer to UK PtF at any time in the near future.

Kind Regards

Barry Plumb

MikeGodsell · Post by **MikeGodsell** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:55 pm

Many thanks, just have to wait & see I guess.

Rod1 · Post by **Rod1** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:13 am

Update from Dyn Aero;

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On the 16/03/2009 the new company formed by Christophe ROBIN and based in Darois gained Production Organisation Approval from the DGAC on behalf of EASA. The company will design and produce certified aircraft under the new European regulation of European Light Aircraft (ELA 1). Additionally the company will produce parts for APEX aircraft. Initially only smaller parts that need to be replaced on a regular basis, filters, bolts etc. will be offered. However the inventory will be enlarged over time to include major parts like wings and undercarriages.

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Rod1

MikeGodsell · Post by **MikeGodsell** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:31 pm

Thanks Rod.. Perhaps they may revive the modernised Robin ATL [think it was called 'Zulu']which prototype was destroyed in a storm couple of years ago. The ELA concept could produce some very interesting aircraft.

steveneale · Post by **steveneale** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:43 pm

A sad day though if it sees the end of DR400 and Alpha series manufacture.

Steve

Rod1 · Post by **Rod1** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:59 am

There are some very interesting new aircraft likely to come out of this. The aerobatic MCR01 with a Rotax 912s will be very interesting. See my thread on Flyer for more;

http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=54319

Rod1

steveneale · Post by **steveneale** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:02 pm

PaulHS wrote:Peter, don't blame you sticking with your pride and joy, when they wanted to move it (the 4 seat banbi) out of exhibition hall I was told don't push here and don't touch there, get the feeling that whilst it is a nice looking plane that it will not have the durability or staying power of the classics from any of the major manufacturers, a bit like my 1st wife??

Not sure why light means durability problems. If you ever pushed a MCR01 around you know the fuselage is flexible in places if you push on it ( then springs back). I think they are plenty strong but just different. You wouldn't push on the fabric of a Jodel to move it but at a strong point. Same with the MCRs.

Re wives, I've learned over many years where I can push mine and where I can't. If I push too hard she snaps back too

Steve

Rod1 · Post by **Rod1** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:30 pm

PaulHS

By calling it a “the 4 seat banbi” you are actually saying “a 4 seat 2 seat”! (see Dyn Aero web site for explanation).

Rod1